{"id":13151,"date":"2025-03-14T05:39:16","date_gmt":"2025-03-14T09:39:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/?p=13151"},"modified":"2025-03-14T00:43:03","modified_gmt":"2025-03-14T04:43:03","slug":"roundup-positive-feelings-about-a-useless-meeting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/2025\/03\/14\/roundup-positive-feelings-about-a-useless-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"Roundup: Positive feelings about a useless meeting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We seem to be caught in a pattern where Donald Trump will invite a world leader to the White House\u2014yesterday it was NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte\u2014and he goes on an unhinged rant while they\u2019re sitting there, trying to avoid saying anything that will set him off. And yesterday\u2019s rant included a full-on threat to annex Greenland (while Rutte tried to downplay NATO\u2019s involvement in any way, which is true to the extent that it only operates by consensus), and went on an extended rant about Canada not working as a real country, and made up the lie that America pays for our military (not true in the slightest), before repeating the falsehood that the US subsidizes us.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lkbox25yak2r\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreif3ahzs6bstndzkup3i5fv4odvceilq74f2hldk2wxxqjkwarhuoq\">\n<p lang=\"en\">Half-point to #CBCNN for not both-sidesing that caption.<\/p>\n<p>— <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro?ref_src=embed\">Dale Smith (@journodale.bsky.social)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro\/post\/3lkbox25yak2r?ref_src=embed\">2025-03-13T18:09:44.596Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.bsky.app\/static\/embed.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Dominic LeBlanc and Fran\u00e7ois-Philippe Champagne had their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/business\/premier-ford-optimistic-following-talks-with-lutnick-in-washington\/article_2017e8a5-418f-5be1-bc1c-734749435033.html\">meeting<\/a> with Howard Lutnick, with Doug Ford along for the ride as he continued to try and make himself the main character (and I watched Conservative talking head pundits also putting forward this distorted view of reality). Ford came out of the meeting, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/provincial\/doug-ford-says-temperature-is-being-lowered-after-tariff-talks-with-top-donald-trump-aides\/article_68d61922-000c-11f0-86a8-e3a2ca94da05.html\">effusive<\/a> about how \u201cpositive\u201d it was and how they were going to have more meetings next week (and was later corrected that officials were going to meet, not him), while the two ministers basically talked a lot and said nothing, because nothing could be accomplished here. But they had to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/canada-ontario-tariff-meeting-washington-1.7483312\">pretend<\/a> that something came from this meeting when obviously nothing did, as there were no changes to any tariffs, and Ford\u2019s pressure tactic around the electricity \u201csurcharge\u201d remains off the table again.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lkc6vantcc2f\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreiaote5do67i356dv3a3yv4fzfskfbymrgrjvb277p4dko2tkksawq\">\n<p lang=\"en\">In summary: today's meeting did nothing. Canadian officials are still trapped in a mindset that Trump can be reasoned with. "The fact that we're engaging in a tangible outcome." NO, IT'S NOT.<\/p>\n<p>— <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc?ref_src=embed\">Emmett Macfarlane \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6 (@emmettmacfarlane.com)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc\/post\/3lkc6vantcc2f?ref_src=embed\">2025-03-13T22:55:04.181Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.bsky.app\/static\/embed.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lkc76do6g22f\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreiac3ydlejbie4lgbawfo6cgmlhunfnlfhqcckpihrebyqrd7f2doy\">\n<p lang=\"en\">Let Trump make all the accusations he wants. We should be responding forcefully, and making the situation as bad for Trump as possible. The *only* thing that will end this is domestic pressure in the US. We should be going scorched Earth.<\/p>\n<p>— <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc?ref_src=embed\">Emmett Macfarlane \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6 (@emmettmacfarlane.com)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:w3miivoaldds6rqccvwjnvnc\/post\/3lkc76do6g22f?ref_src=embed\">2025-03-13T23:00:09.329Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.bsky.app\/static\/embed.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Elsewhere, Trump\u2019s pick for US ambassador to Canada had his Senate <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/world\/hoekstra-senate-hearing-1.7482723\">confirmation hearing<\/a>, and when asked, he said that Canada is a sovereign country, and tried to claim that Trump\u2019s expansionist rhetoric is about \u201cnegotiation tactics,\u201d but it certainly doesn\u2019t seem to be. And yeah, he said the bare minimum to ensure that he wasn\u2019t PNGed before he could even arrive in the country. Closer to home, Scott Moe continues to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/business\/chinese-tariffs-on-canola-oil-meal-would-be-disastrous-for-saskatchewan-moe\/article_55d0a1e2-6fff-57a7-9701-be8ed39628ed.html\">call for capitulation<\/a> to China regarding their tariff fight, because of course he did, and claimed it was about protecting Quebec\u2019s industries over Saskatchewan\u2019s, except Quebec doesn\u2019t really have much of an auto sector, but Moe\u2019s brain is pretty smooth, after all.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">It\u2019s been a day, you guys. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/REu4AeWUQb\">https:\/\/t.co\/REu4AeWUQb<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— Dale Smith (@journo_dale) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journo_dale\/status\/1900337041491038246?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 14, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Ukraine Dispatch<\/p>\n<p>An <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/russian-attack-ukraines-dnipropetrovsk-region-injures-three-local-officials-say-2025-03-13\/\">overnight attack<\/a> on Dnipro injured three women and damaged apartment buildings. Ukrainian forces are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/news\/world\/europe\/ukraine-loses-a-ceasefire-bargaining-chip-as-its-troops-cede-ground-in-russia\/article_309b7c4a-fc31-56fe-8e0f-1f1154a9ac4d.html\">in retreat<\/a> in parts of Kursk region, which means losing a bargaining chip in possible peace negotiations. And Putin has all kinds of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/russia-close-ejecting-ukrainian-forces-kursk-kremlin-says-2025-03-13\/\">conditions<\/a> on a possible ceasefire, because he\u2019s not serious, and Ukraine only went along with the plan to call his bluff.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\u26a1\ufe0f Ukraine receives $1.7 billion from Canada under G7 loan covered by Russian assets.<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/sVDZzGTIq9\">https:\/\/t.co\/sVDZzGTIq9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KyivIndependent\/status\/1900184870598439009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 13, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\u26a1\ufe0fRussian drone strike on Kharkiv injures 7, including 4 children.<\/p>\n<p>A Russian drone strike on the Osnovianskyi district of Kharkiv injured at least seven people, the city's Mayor Ihor Terekhov reported on March 13.<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/DqHHiHylYP\">https:\/\/t.co\/DqHHiHylYP<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KyivIndependent\/status\/1900296954023993719?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 13, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:lafbr3dznxdyvgup2umwssht\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lkazc7hdkk2t\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreihzpxe5sesbkigveqm4ch57hmvlzjlnpr3opnt522qhskm5q66kwy\">\n<p lang=\"en\">Surprise! The Russians, who have repeatedly said they don't want a ceasefire, have once again said they don't want a ceasefire<\/p>\n<p>— <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:lafbr3dznxdyvgup2umwssht?ref_src=embed\">Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum.bsky.social)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:lafbr3dznxdyvgup2umwssht\/post\/3lkazc7hdkk2t?ref_src=embed\">2025-03-13T11:42:16.938Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.bsky.app\/static\/embed.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Good reads:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Here are the leaks and rumours about the Cabinet shuffle and the very pared down composition, per <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/cabinet-carney-transition-1.7482507\">CBC<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/article\/miller-duclos-among-ministers-to-be-dropped-from-carneys-new-cabinet-sources\/\">CTV<\/a>, and <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/some-trudeau-cabinet-ministers-out-as-carney-prepares-to-reveal-a-shorter-bench\/article_2d053c18-9d48-57a6-a733-8a77be7a0a83.html\">The Canadian Press<\/a><\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>Justin Trudeau <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/trudeau-says-hes-proud-of-canadians-in-video-posted-on-his-last-day-in-office\/article_807ae2f3-4aae-5d14-9181-5b345ace7781.html\">posted<\/a> a thirty-second farewell video from his office yesterday.<\/li>\n<li>On his way out, Trudeau <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/trudeau-24-sussex-1.7481931\">proposed<\/a> a different path forward for the future of 24 Sussex, which seems a little late in the day (and I think the process is dubious).<\/li>\n<li>From Charlevoix, M\u00e9lanie Joly is trying to get her G7 counterparts unified on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/g7-foreign-ministers-start-talks-in-quebec-as-joly-pushes-back-on-u-s-coercion\/article_e999a8c2-bfe0-5d5f-92e7-59d21d4e1014.html\">maritime cooperation<\/a>, as the US remains offside around Ukraine and tariffs.<\/li>\n<li>Fran\u00e7ois-Philippe Champagne is calling on his department to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/u-s-tariffs-push-ottawa-to-invest-more-in-canadian-steel-aluminum-projects\/article_12a3f160-2741-515c-a7df-6a82f44fb5dc.html\">prioritise<\/a> projects that will primarily use Canadian steel and aluminium in response to the tariffs.<\/li>\n<li>Marc Miller has said the government <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/ottawa-offers-some-lost-canadians-citizenship-after-legislation-delayed\/article_870b7cc1-c29b-5320-8719-e1509cc40ecc.html\">plans to offer<\/a> \u201cdiscretionary\u201d citizenship to a cohort of \u201clost\u201d Canadians while they apply to the court to extend a deadline.<\/li>\n<li>Here\u2019s a look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/newsinteractives\/features\/arctic-defence\">Canadian Rangers<\/a>, who are at the forefront of monitoring and defending Canada\u2019s North.<\/li>\n<li>A BC woman is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/mom-says-canadian-woman-in-inhumane-u-s-detention-global-affairs-cant-intervene\/article_60315e4c-dd32-5377-aa0b-df767a908df9.html\">being held<\/a> in Arizona after her visa application was denied, and Global Affairs says they can\u2019t intervene.<\/li>\n<li><em>Wired<\/em> has a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/elon-musk-digital-coup-doge-data-ai\/\">longread<\/a> that maps Elon Musk\u2019s digital coup of the US government.<\/li>\n<li>The King <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/king-charles-sword-canadian-attendant-1.7482738\">met with<\/a> the Senate Speaker and Black Rod in Buckingham Palace on Wednesday to present Black Rod with a new ceremonial sword for his duties.<\/li>\n<li>Mark Carney\u2019s latest book was supposed to be published in May, but he and the publisher decided to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/federal\/publication-of-mark-carneys-upcoming-book-will-be-delayed\/article_c94ebf68-0023-11f0-ad25-7b5cc359ddb4.html\">push the date<\/a> until possibly July.<\/li>\n<li>Conservatives and their proxies are <a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/news\/11080497\/conservative-digital-campaign-carney\/\">ramping up<\/a> online ads against Carney, particularly as they hit well with the tech bro algorithms.<\/li>\n<li>Emmett Macfarlane <a href=\"https:\/\/emmettmacfarlane.substack.com\/p\/opinion-doug-ford-has-suckered-everyone\">calls out<\/a> Doug Ford\u2019s empty bluster and his capitulation to Trump, and how dangerous it is for the country in the long term.<\/li>\n<li>Althia Raj has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/political-opinion\/surprises-freeland-6-storylines-to-watch-for-with-mark-carneys-new-cabinet\/article_a932ca94-0037-11f0-ae62-9fd2d5519e3f.html\">six storylines<\/a> she\u2019ll be looking at in Carney\u2019s Cabinet choices.<\/li>\n<li>My <a href=\"https:\/\/xtramagazine.com\/power\/politics\/justin-trudeau-mark-carney-lgbtq-issues-legacy-271773\"><em>Xtra<\/em> column<\/a> looks back on Trudeau\u2019s LGBTQ+ legacy, and the work that he\u2019s left Mark Carney to do on the file.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Odds and ends:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Hey Canada, one last thing. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ue1AfQl489\">pic.twitter.com\/ue1AfQl489<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JustinTrudeau\/status\/1900210954719080808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 13, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lkbxkmhuic2c\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreieq2tlf65ziv4rto3vrh7nt2ywpxfurwiok2x5v3ortrepfcdejnm\">\n<p lang=\"en\">Pretty damning stuff.<\/p>\n<p>— <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro?ref_src=embed\">Dale Smith (@journodale.bsky.social)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:4xqt7t2zph634drigtdxdmro\/post\/3lkbxkmhuic2c?ref_src=embed\">2025-03-13T20:43:51.278Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/embed.bsky.app\/static\/embed.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><strong>Want more Routine Proceedings?\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/journo_dale\">Become a patron<\/a>\u00a0and get exclusive new content. <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We seem to be caught in a pattern where 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