{"id":12522,"date":"2024-06-10T05:32:46","date_gmt":"2024-06-10T09:32:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/?p=12522"},"modified":"2024-06-10T02:38:15","modified_gmt":"2024-06-10T06:38:15","slug":"roundup-abdicating-responsibilities-and-calling-on-justice-hogue-instead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/2024\/06\/10\/roundup-abdicating-responsibilities-and-calling-on-justice-hogue-instead\/","title":{"rendered":"Roundup: Abdicating responsibilities and calling on Justice Hogue instead"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The reverberations from the NSICOP report continued over the weekend, with the rhetoric still as ridiculous as ever. For example, everyone keeps shouting the word \u201ctreason\u201d about what these MPs are alleged to have done (with the exception of the one former MP in the report), and lo, it doesn\u2019t actually meet the Criminal Code definition of \u201ctreason,\u201d which means that it\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/foreign-interference-parliamentarians-conspired-now-what-1.7228005\">unlikely<\/a> anyone is going to face charges for what is alleged to have happened (if indeed any of it was in fact foreign interference and not actions undertaken as part of diplomacy, and the jury is still out on that).<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Lots of rhetoric about Canadian politicians committing "treason" for sharing info with foreign states. <\/p>\n<p>Let me be clear: this is definitely contrary to Canadian interests. But is it treason? <\/p>\n<p>I struggle to see how it meets the CC definition: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/viiRi4HCPC\">https:\/\/t.co\/viiRi4HCPC<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/i0gU6O3gwW\">pic.twitter.com\/i0gU6O3gwW<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— JMDavis (@JessMarinDavis) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JessMarinDavis\/status\/1799411708370341892?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 8, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I think the number of people who want to stop reading 2b when it's convenient is pretty funny. Friends, that's not how the criminal code works. You can't just take the bits you want.<\/p>\n<p>— JMDavis (@JessMarinDavis) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JessMarinDavis\/status\/1799474833950220535?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 8, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>And rather than continue to use this opportunity to behave like adults, the Bloc and the Conservatives now want to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/article-opposition-parties-urge-collusion-revelations-be-turned-over-to\/\">turn this over<\/a> to Justice Hogue so that she can make some sort of determination rather than put on their big-boy pants and get their classified briefings. Turning this over to Justice Hogue would be an absolute abdication of responsibility by both the Bloc and Conservative leaders, and soon it could just be the Conservative leader since Yves-Fran\u00e7ois Blanchet is now considering getting a classified briefing. That hasn\u2019t stopped Michael Chong from going on national television to literally claim that he knows better than former CSIS directors about this, and saying that if Poilievre gets briefed, his hands are tied. That\u2019s wrong, that\u2019s bullshit, and that\u2019s fabricating excuses so that he can continue to act as an ignorant critic rather than an informed observer.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Once again, Michael Chong is demonstrating that there is no bullshit he won\u2019t spin in order to curry favour with the party. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/7lvEpNe4sq\">https:\/\/t.co\/7lvEpNe4sq<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— Dale Smith (@journo_dale) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journo_dale\/status\/1800012907457245305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 10, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>This is not new. This is a long-standing problem in Canadian politics that opposition leaders don\u2019t want to be briefed because if they do, then they have to be responsible in their commentary, and they don\u2019t want to do that. They want to be able to stand up and say inflammatory things, and Poilievre is not only no different, but that\u2019s his entire modus operandi. He can\u2019t operate if he has to act like a responsible grown-up, where he would have to get the information and do something with it internally in his party, but he doesn\u2019t want to do that when he can continue screaming that the prime minister is hiding something. But it\u2019s hard to say that the prime minister is hiding something when he is quite literally offering Poilievre the opportunity to read the classified report, so instead he lies about what that would mean, and he gets Michael Chong to debase himself and also lie about it. This is the state of politics, and it\u2019s very, very bad for our democracy.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Sometimes I publish in poli sci journals. Sometimes I publish in law journals.<\/p>\n<p>Poli sci journals are better for explaining why political actors do what they do.<\/p>\n<p>Law journals are better for advocating what political actors should do.<\/p>\n<p>— Philippe Lagass\u00e9 (@LagasseSubstack) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LagasseSubstack\/status\/1799521398471184439?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 8, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Why we have to give political parties more responsibilities to make them more responsible: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/F1xrkDyDD7\">https:\/\/t.co\/F1xrkDyDD7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— Philippe Lagass\u00e9 (@LagasseSubstack) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LagasseSubstack\/status\/1799522147112534397?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 8, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Ukraine Dispatch:<\/p>\n<p>Russians appear to be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/russia-appears-make-headway-key-ukrainian-town-chasiv-yar-2024-06-09\/\">making headway<\/a> in their attempt to capture the strategically significant town of Chasiv Yar. Ukraine says that it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/news\/world\/europe\/ukraine-says-it-struck-a-top-fighter-plane-deep-inside-russia\/article_ccf47e80-3c23-5823-bc36-0ff38d63d217.html\">struck<\/a> an \u201cultra-modern\u201d Russian aircraft six hundred kilometres from the front lines. The <em>Globe and Mail<\/em> has a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/world\/article-the-fearless-ukraine-soldiers-front-lines\/\">longread<\/a> about of Ukraine\u2019s most elite special forces units, on the front lines of the war with Russia.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Russia is only able to continue this war because of its ability to terrorize with guided aerial bombs, various types of missiles, and drones.<\/p>\n<p>That is why effective air defense, electronic warfare, and combat aircraft are critical to strengthening our country's defense,\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/o7fTO1tnsx\">pic.twitter.com\/o7fTO1tnsx<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— Volodymyr Zelenskyy \/ \u0412\u043e\u043b\u043e\u0434\u0438\u043c\u0438\u0440 \u0417\u0435\u043b\u0435\u043d\u0441\u044c\u043a\u0438\u0439 (@ZelenskyyUa) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ZelenskyyUa\/status\/1799743248421839171?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 9, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\u26a1\ufe0fRussian attack in Nikopol injures woman. <\/p>\n<p>A 44-year-old woman sustained injuries during an attack on the district center, Governor Serhii Lysak said. The attacks also damaged homes, property, and gas pipelines.<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/PwmxmXV1dD\">https:\/\/t.co\/PwmxmXV1dD<\/a><\/p>\n<p>— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KyivIndependent\/status\/1800025922185343296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 10, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Good reads:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Chrystia Freeland will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/politics\/capital-gains-proposal-to-be-presented-to-parliament-on-monday-freeland-says\/article_8e6271f1-a078-53b2-8b49-feab4090dd88.html\">table<\/a> the Ways and Means Motion for the capital gains inclusion rate changes in the House of Commons today.<\/li>\n<li>Arif Virani says he\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/politics\/virani-open-to-change-online-harms-bill-tories-say-modernize-current-laws-instead\/article_3476ed77-01a5-5a85-a3de-0e34658d6d34.html\">open to amending<\/a> the Online Harms bill, while the Conservatives are arguing it should just be scrapped.<\/li>\n<li>The Privy Council Office <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/news\/politics\/government-disputes-claim-it-blocked-1000-plus-documents\">disputes<\/a> that it refused to turn over a thousand documents to NSICOP under Cabinet Confidence, saying they\u2019re most likely correspondence.<\/li>\n<li>New numbers prove what we already knew\u2014that the Canada Disability Benefit will help <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/federal\/trudeau-governments-new-benefit-for-canadians-with-disabilities-will-lift-just-a-fraction-out-of\/article_b964a782-24d4-11ef-9b56-ab1cd5d6f3e3.html\">pretty much nobody<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A possible strike of CBSA members has been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/national\/strike-for-canadian-border-workers-on-hold-until-wednesday-union\/article_c1b83f8c-4c5a-5948-af02-b4fa28d13ff6.html\">postponed<\/a> until Wednesday while negotiations continue.<\/li>\n<li>Google has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecanadianpressnews.ca\/politics\/google-signs-deal-with-organization-to-distribute-100m-to-canadian-news-companies\/article_02d28c6b-cf7f-5918-8985-0ea9edddd921.html\">signed on<\/a> with the Canadian Journalism Collective to distribute their $100 million annual payment to exempt themselves from the Online News Act.<\/li>\n<li>The foreign interference bill is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/bill-c70-foreign-registry-speed-next-election-1.7229595\">wrapping up<\/a> at committee in spite of civil society groups concerned that it hasn\u2019t had enough study for its possible problems.<\/li>\n<li>The <em>Star<\/em> looks at the escalating <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/federal\/garage-set-on-fire-smashed-windows-mps-and-elected-officials-are-rattled-by-rising-intimidation\/article_aba0b8d8-2444-11ef-b3f7-6b6687865c06.html\">series of threats<\/a> MPs are facing\u2014especially at their homes and affecting families\u2014while nobody wants to talk about it.<\/li>\n<li>Alberta MLA Shannon Phillips is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/canada\/alberta\/article-nenshi-ndp-mla-seat-resignation\/\">resigning<\/a> her seat after being ground down by the state of politics and police harassment, which is an indictment of the state of politics.<\/li>\n<li>Kevin Carmichael <a href=\"https:\/\/thelogic.co\/comment\/carmichael-the-bank-of-canadas-rate-cut-was-good-news-but-theres-a-catch\/\">pours some cold water<\/a> on the jubilation of the Bank of Canada\u2019s rate cut with a reminder of the headwinds our economy is still facing.<\/li>\n<li>Shannon Proudfoot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/opinion\/article-what-you-can-learn-about-politics-from-arnold-viersens-trip-to-pierre\/\">pays attention<\/a> to the messages sent by Arnold Viersen going on that podcast, and Poilievre\u2019s swift condemnation thereof.<\/li>\n<li>Susan Delacourt and Matt Gurney <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/canadians-have-been-told-there-might-be-traitors-in-parliament-why-arent-the-liberals-and\/article_b1427f32-24ea-11ef-8ca1-bf484a28f37c.html\">debate<\/a> the naming-names issue, and why political parties themselves need to be stepping up rather than changing the subject.<\/li>\n<li>Paul Wells <a href=\"https:\/\/paulwells.substack.com\/p\/albertas-system-builder\">gets a tour<\/a> of the recovery-based addiction treatment network that the Alberta government is building, and some of it sounds impressive.<\/li>\n<li>My <a href=\"https:\/\/looniepolitics.com\/if-theres-a-constitutional-crisis-with-the-senate-they-are-unlikely-to-start-it\/\">column<\/a> offers a corrective to the overwrought handwringing about the potential for the Senate to become an ideological thorn in a future government\u2019s side.<\/li>\n<li>My <a href=\"https:\/\/looniepolitics.com\/elections-canada-is-not-the-solution-to-nomination-worries\/\">weekend column<\/a> looks at the NSICOP report\u2019s suggestion that Elections Canada start monitoring nomination races, and why that\u2019s actually a very bad idea.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Odds and ends:<\/p>\n<p>For <em>National Magazine<\/em>, I <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalmagazine.ca\/en-ca\/articles\/law\/hot-topics-in-law\/2024\/supreme-court-rules-that-secret-trials-don-t-exist-in-canada\">look into<\/a> Friday\u2019s Supreme Court of Canada decision on so-called \u201csecret trials\u201d and why there is a necessity for informer privilege in courts.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Want more Routine 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