{"id":12019,"date":"2023-12-07T05:29:59","date_gmt":"2023-12-07T10:29:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/?p=12019"},"modified":"2023-12-07T00:13:17","modified_gmt":"2023-12-07T05:13:17","slug":"roundup-the-empty-threat-to-sit-over-the-holidays","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/2023\/12\/07\/roundup-the-empty-threat-to-sit-over-the-holidays\/","title":{"rendered":"Roundup: The empty threat to sit over the holidays"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday began with Pierre Poilievre <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/pm-pans-poilievre-for-pulling-stunts-by-threatening-to-delay-mps-holidays-with-house-tactics-1.6675705\">announcing<\/a> at the start of his caucus meeting that the Conservatives would keep the government from going on their Christmas holidays\u2014because they had allegedly ruined the Christmases of Canadians\u2014unless the government lifts the carbon price from \u201cfarmers, First Nations, and families,\u201d which is pretty nebulous, and would seem to mean the consumer carbon price and not the industrial one. Their method of warfare? Thousands of amendments that would force round-the-clock votes on things like their budget implementation bill or the bill to amend competition laws.<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that, despite the threats that Conservatives like Melissa Lantsman are making, is that they can\u2019t actually force the House to sit past December 15th. MPs long ago put the fixed calendar into the Standing Orders, and it would take a unanimous consent motion to change that date, which they\u2019re not going to get. And if they think they\u2019re going to exploit the loophole of keep voting going for days on end (which would technically be one sitting day that lasts beyond twenty-four hours), well, Poilievre is going to find his own MPs are going to start getting pretty upset with him because they have families, and constituency business to attend to, and this kind of thing gets pretty tiresome really quickly.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The House will rise on a fixed schedule whether the Conservatives like it or not. Extending the sitting takes unanimous consent, which they\u2019re not going to get. <br \/>This is a childish game. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/sOgIJpUo4B\">pic.twitter.com\/sOgIJpUo4B<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Dale Smith (@journo_dale) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journo_dale\/status\/1732552603223969829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 7, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">for that day, voting will continue overnight into next day if necessary to complete the voting. What Poilievre may be hoping to do is start the voting b4 Dec. 15 so that it will have to continue past the hour of adjournment on that Friday. But I doubt House will let that happen.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; B. Thomas Hall (@ThomasHall17) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ThomasHall17\/status\/1732537790749921430?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 6, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s an empty threat, and it\u2019s the same kind of thing that happens every June, and every December without fail. The opposition parties start thumping their chests because it\u2019s their last chance to flex their muscles and look like they\u2019re being tough on the government, and without fail, they go home on time, if not a day or two early, because everyone is tired, cranky, and just wants to get the hell out of there. I would be incredibly surprised if the House didn\u2019t rise for the holidays by the end of the 14th. Of course, this will be a different matter for the Senate, who will once again complain bitterly that these amendment vote-a-thons will delay their getting the bills, which will mean rushed passage, and that same song and dance will play out yet again, as it does at the end of every session.<\/p>\n<p>In short, everyone needs to grow the hell up, and frankly, MPs need to go home sooner than later and think about their atrocious behaviour.<\/p>\n<p>Ukraine Dispatch:<\/p>\n<p>Ukrainian forces <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/ukraine-downs-41-russian-drones-major-overnight-attack-2023-12-06\/\">shot down<\/a> 41 out of 48 Russian drones in a major overnight attack. Russian forces <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/two-killed-russian-strike-ukraines-kherson-2023-12-05\/\">pressed<\/a> again on Avdiivka, with both sides each claiming they made gains. It was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/zelenskiy-assures-ukrainians-victory-with-us-aid-balance-2023-12-06\/\">Armed Forces Day<\/a> in Ukraine yesterday, with president Volodymyr Zelenskyy insisting they would win a fair peace \u201cagainst all odds,\u201d while his defence minister was in Washington to try and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/ukraine-defense-minister-visits-pentagon-amid-questions-about-future-aid-2023-12-06\/\">secure more aid<\/a> from the Americans, who are holding it up to try and force concessions around their border. A former Ukrainian MP who was regarded as a traitor was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/europe\/ukraines-sbu-killed-fugitive-ukrainian-lawmaker-russia-source-2023-12-06\/\">shot dead<\/a> outside of Moscow, and sources say that Ukraine\u2019s security service was responsible.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Together with my colleagues, met with <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SpeakerJohnson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@SpeakerJohnson<\/a>. We discussed the situation on the frontlines and urgent needs of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>I am grateful to the Congress for its bipartisan support of Ukraine. We expect help and support to remain unwavering.<\/p>\n<p>The victory of Ukraine serves\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/1NEsUh8fEE\">pic.twitter.com\/1NEsUh8fEE<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Rustem Umerov (@rustem_umerov) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rustem_umerov\/status\/1732429220003864627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 6, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\u26a1\ufe0f Canada announces ban on direct import of Russian diamonds.<\/p>\n<p>Canadian Foreign Minister Melanie Joly announced on Dec. 6 a ban on the direct import of Russian diamonds and related products in coordination with other Group of Seven (G7) countries.<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/OoQGeCxaCF\">https:\/\/t.co\/OoQGeCxaCF<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KyivIndependent\/status\/1732522059664626172?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 6, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Good reads:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The government\u2019s proposed oil and gas emissions cap is <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/news\/canada\/ottawa-emissions-cap-oil-and-gas-sector-thursday\">set to be revealed<\/a> today, and likely contains a cap and trade system, and for the cap to be watered down.<\/li>\n<li>Bill Blair has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thestar.com\/politics\/defence-minister-announces-panel-members-tasked-with-reviewing-military-colleges\/article_45dbe3d8-f705-57f0-98ed-e259f2bfc693.html\">named the panel<\/a> that will review the state of our military colleges, per the Arbour report (who suggested we may close them).<\/li>\n<li>CSE is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/cyberactivity-targeting-elections-on-rise-says-report-from-canada-s-e-spy-service-1.6676391\">warning<\/a> that more elections globally are facing cyber-interference, mostly from Russia and China, and it will get worse as deepfakes are easier to make.<\/li>\n<li>The number of CSIS agents <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/canada\/licence-to-break-the-law-more-canadian-spies-get-permission-to-commit-crimes-memo-shows-1.7043938\">authorised<\/a> to break the law in the course of their duties has been increasing, leading to an even greater need for transparency.<\/li>\n<li>An expert culture says that CSIS\u2019 is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/workplace-expert-says-conditions-at-canada-s-spy-agency-ripe-for-harassment-1.6674922\">ripe for harassment<\/a>, as accusations of sexual assault have been made in the media.<\/li>\n<li>There is no winner yet at the AFN\u2019s special chiefs\u2019 assembly, as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/indigenous\/afn-election-national-chief-1.7050779\">two contenders<\/a> now vie for the post of national chief, but need a 60 percent vote to get it.<\/li>\n<li>A Senate report into the state of Global Affairs says <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/news\/politics\/senate-report-calls-on-gac-to-cut-senior-management-denounces-troubling-loss-of-expertise-in-foreign-service\">they need<\/a> fewer senior managers, new recruits, and better training in more languages.<\/li>\n<li>MPs have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ctvnews.ca\/politics\/accused-of-improper-partisan-conduct-mps-agree-to-expedited-probe-into-speaker-fergus-1.6675999\">sent the matter<\/a> of Greg Fergus\u2019 video message to the Procedure and House Affairs committee (where I\u2019m sure it totally won\u2019t be a circus at all).<\/li>\n<li>Kevin Carmichael <a href=\"https:\/\/thelogic.co\/comment\/carmichael-canada-can-no-longer-ignore-its-productivity-problem\/\">sounds the alarm<\/a> as to why we need to pay attention to our declining productivity, because the trade-offs we made are no longer working.<\/li>\n<li>Carmichael also <a href=\"https:\/\/thelogic.co\/comment\/carmichael-for-tiff-macklem-the-hard-part-is-just-beginning\/\">parses<\/a> what the Bank of Canada said in their rate decision.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Odds and ends:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Procuring the Poseidons\" width=\"584\" height=\"329\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Rro4LGmGzpI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Looking to get a copy of my book <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/UnbrokenMachine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#UnbrokenMachine<\/a>? Get it directly from <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dundurnpress?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@dundurnpress<\/a> for 25% off, using code HOLIDAY23. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/VLoITR00fP\">https:\/\/t.co\/VLoITR00fP<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Dale Smith (@journo_dale) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journo_dale\/status\/1726981936911089861?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 21, 2023<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><strong>Want more Routine Proceedings?\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/journo_dale\">Become a patron<\/a>\u00a0and get exclusive new content. <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday began with Pierre Poilievre announcing at the start of his caucus meeting that the Conservatives would keep the government from going on their Christmas holidays\u2014because they had allegedly ruined the Christmases of Canadians\u2014unless the government lifts the carbon price &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/2023\/12\/07\/roundup-the-empty-threat-to-sit-over-the-holidays\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[41],"tags":[246,44,306,80,210,32,98,317,122,669,359],"class_list":["post-12019","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-roundup","tag-bank-of-canada","tag-canadian-forces","tag-cse","tag-csis","tag-cyber-security","tag-environment","tag-first-nations","tag-pierre-poilievre","tag-procurement","tag-speaker-fergus","tag-ukraine"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2jJFQ-37R","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12019","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12019"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12019\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12020,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12019\/revisions\/12020"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12019"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12019"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.routineproceedings.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12019"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}