The PBO is at it again, and he released a report yesterday on his particular calculations about how Canada could get to our stated NATO goals of 2 percent of GDP by 2032-33, and that we would need to double defence spending to get there, and what that looks like if the government remains committed to its deficit and debt-to-GDP ratio targets. Fair enough, but there are a number of capital commitments in the works that include new submarines, and one has a pretty good bet that these costs will only increase as time goes by, for what it’s worth.
To be clear, no matter how much Canada spends, a Trump presidency would bully Canada and would not help it much when Canada needs it. Remember how Trump helped us with the two Michaels or with Saudi Arabia? yeah, exactly. 2% is not a panacea for fixing Trump-Canada relations
— Steve Saideman (@smsaideman) October 30, 2024
While this is all well and good, there was some particular language in the report that should raise some eyebrows, because Yves Giroux is talking about how other economic forecasts are “erroneous” and he is insisting therefore that his aren’t, which is…a choice. In his previous report on defence spending, Giroux went on a whole tangent about how the OECD figures used as the baseline weren’t correct and his numbers were, but NATO uses those OECD figures for their purposes, not the PBO’s. For the sake of an apples-to-apples comparison, you would think that he would use the same denominator as NATO does, but of course not. Giroux has a particular sense of hubris around his figures, and we all know what happened when he got them wrong with his first report on the carbon levy and then he tried to prevaricate and rationalize them away, and insisted there wouldn’t be any real changes when lo, there were some pretty significant ones.
Not sure that using the words "erroneous" and "correct" rather than "yours" vs "ours" or "pessimistic" vs "optimistic" is the right choice here. Especially given that PBO forecasts were off for H1 2024. https://t.co/9vYgJXsRp5
— Andrew Leach (@andrew_leach) October 30, 2024
While we’re on the topic, the 2 percent figure remains a bad one because the denominator—Canada’s GDP is much larger than many NATO members’, making that figure incredibly hard to reach, particularly as the economy grows, and the fact that any country could exceed that target if their economy crashed. Not saying we don’t need to spend more, because we do (and I would not expect the Conservatives to meet the target either as they pledge to cut significantly should they form government next), but we also need to keep some perspective.
Ukraine Dispatch
Ukrainian forces shot down 33 out of 62 drones plus one missile overnight, which killed at least four in various regions of the country, while Russia claims they downed 25 Ukrainian drones, as North Korea’s foreign minister travelled to Moscow. Last evening, a guided bombs struck a high rise in Kharkiv, killing a child. Russians claim to have taken the village of Kruhliakivka in the Kharkiv region.
Russia struck a nine-story building in Kharkiv with a guided aerial bomb.
Tragically, there are casualties, including children, and more people may still be trapped under the rubble. All necessary emergency services are on site.
Partners see what happens every day. In these… pic.twitter.com/iVLJ6x5K4R
— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) October 30, 2024
Vovchansk—another Ukrainian city that was turned into ruins when russia decided to 'liberate' it.
📹: @DPSU_ua pic.twitter.com/QeNIUYdUdn
— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 30, 2024