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		By: Mark Hammer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hammer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.routineproceedings.com/2022/09/14/roundup-poilievre-plays-victim-around-the-media/#comment-15914&quot;&gt;coalitionforchangecanada&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know that the CPC&#039;s &quot;days are numbered&quot;.  And I would hope they aren&#039;t.  Having 3 major parties is a big part of what makes government and governance in Canada as good as it is.  (The only party for whom the &quot;numbered days&quot; descriptor seems apt are the Greens, sadly.)  But, that aside, I can&#039;t see Poilievre lasting very long unless he is a MUCH faster learner than he has been to date.  Tom Mulcair has an interesting opinion piece on the CTV site, tat I think sums up Poilievre&#039;s weak spots quite well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.routineproceedings.com/2022/09/14/roundup-poilievre-plays-victim-around-the-media/#comment-15914">coalitionforchangecanada</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that the CPC&#8217;s &#8220;days are numbered&#8221;.  And I would hope they aren&#8217;t.  Having 3 major parties is a big part of what makes government and governance in Canada as good as it is.  (The only party for whom the &#8220;numbered days&#8221; descriptor seems apt are the Greens, sadly.)  But, that aside, I can&#8217;t see Poilievre lasting very long unless he is a MUCH faster learner than he has been to date.  Tom Mulcair has an interesting opinion piece on the CTV site, tat I think sums up Poilievre&#8217;s weak spots quite well.</p>
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		By: J.B.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2022 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pugnacious Pete is “Dweeb Trump,” pulling the same Lugenpresse schtick that the “lying fake news media are the enemy of the people.” The media then genuflects after being spanked because they’re afraid of losing precious “access” and then proceed to their usual practice of hammering the Liberals while treating the right with kid gloves. Then when Liberals get mad about the double standard and employ the media-failed hashtag, PPG and pundits lash out at the wrong people, accuse Liberals of undemocratic attacks upon the free press, label them as groupies for the PM and block them like a bunch of Rempel-Garner wannabes. Akin’s unnecessary groveling apology was so contrived and pathetic, one would swear he was a willing stooge for Pepe’s publicity stunt. But it sets a precedent going forward: any media deemed insufficiently fawning in the hall of the pigeon king (which also includes being sufficiently nasty to the hated Trudeau) will see themselves defenestrated. Putin’s favorite two-dollar word… along with Andrew Scheer’s.

This is called working the refs, and it’s how the right rigs the playing field. The losers are the uninformed and gaslighted citizens, who only get a blinkered view of the landscape and a slanted perspective on the candidates. Writer Adam Serwer explained the politics of bullying when it came to Trump, in a famous quote from his piece in The Atlantic: “The cruelty is the point.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pugnacious Pete is “Dweeb Trump,” pulling the same Lugenpresse schtick that the “lying fake news media are the enemy of the people.” The media then genuflects after being spanked because they’re afraid of losing precious “access” and then proceed to their usual practice of hammering the Liberals while treating the right with kid gloves. Then when Liberals get mad about the double standard and employ the media-failed hashtag, PPG and pundits lash out at the wrong people, accuse Liberals of undemocratic attacks upon the free press, label them as groupies for the PM and block them like a bunch of Rempel-Garner wannabes. Akin’s unnecessary groveling apology was so contrived and pathetic, one would swear he was a willing stooge for Pepe’s publicity stunt. But it sets a precedent going forward: any media deemed insufficiently fawning in the hall of the pigeon king (which also includes being sufficiently nasty to the hated Trudeau) will see themselves defenestrated. Putin’s favorite two-dollar word… along with Andrew Scheer’s.</p>
<p>This is called working the refs, and it’s how the right rigs the playing field. The losers are the uninformed and gaslighted citizens, who only get a blinkered view of the landscape and a slanted perspective on the candidates. Writer Adam Serwer explained the politics of bullying when it came to Trump, in a famous quote from his piece in The Atlantic: “The cruelty is the point.”</p>
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		By: coalitionforchangecanada		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2022 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trudeau announced cogent and meaningful policies that will assist      Canadians in lower tax brackets contend with the effects of inflation. He did it with members of his caucus in reasonable tones and what did he get? Media who still tried to find the negative. On the same day Poilievre and his righteous mean spirited party gave no thanks or proposed an alternate plan for Canadians but this has been going on for years. Canadians her Poly shouting his misinformative rhetoric and are still waiting for policy. There has been in social policy from the CPC and there is little hope that there will be any from them going forward. From where I sit, I can hear the sound of whetting of the same knives that sliced the throats of the leaders of their party. We may well see a blood bath prior to the next election and the CPC
 will fully understand that  their days are numbered  in Canada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trudeau announced cogent and meaningful policies that will assist      Canadians in lower tax brackets contend with the effects of inflation. He did it with members of his caucus in reasonable tones and what did he get? Media who still tried to find the negative. On the same day Poilievre and his righteous mean spirited party gave no thanks or proposed an alternate plan for Canadians but this has been going on for years. Canadians her Poly shouting his misinformative rhetoric and are still waiting for policy. There has been in social policy from the CPC and there is little hope that there will be any from them going forward. From where I sit, I can hear the sound of whetting of the same knives that sliced the throats of the leaders of their party. We may well see a blood bath prior to the next election and the CPC<br />
 will fully understand that  their days are numbered  in Canada.</p>
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		By: Mark Hammer		</title>
		<link>https://www.routineproceedings.com/2022/09/14/roundup-poilievre-plays-victim-around-the-media/#comment-15913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hammer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2022 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Yiddish, a &quot;lantsman&quot; is someone from your home country, and used as a sort of term of endearment for the sort of person you would automatically warm up to as a fellow refugee/immigrant in a new land.  I find it hard to view Melissa as being from my country.

But, that aside, in all the close-up observations I&#039;ve had of Pierre Poilievre, it appears he simply has no head for workable policy.  Yes, he can throw a punch, but he doesn&#039;t have much to offer beyond that.  The politics of grievance CAN certainly get you elected, but there&#039;s a whole lotta &quot;what next?&quot; where he&#039;ll come up short.  If he was as new to the job as Trudeau was a decade back, I&#039;d cut him some slack.  But he&#039;s been around the Hill long enough that he ought to have learned a thing or two about what to pay attention to when developing policy.  But it seems he hasn&#039;t.  His election posters and constituency office have always proclaimed that he was &quot;:fighting for you&quot;.  But I am constantly reminded of Brando in The Wild One, where one of the girls dancing with a member of his motorcycle gang asks Brando&#039;s character &quot;What are *you* rebelling against, Johnny?&quot;, and he replies &quot;Whaddya got?&quot;.  Being a rootless critic without a tangible objective is no gift to the nation, or even to the party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Yiddish, a &#8220;lantsman&#8221; is someone from your home country, and used as a sort of term of endearment for the sort of person you would automatically warm up to as a fellow refugee/immigrant in a new land.  I find it hard to view Melissa as being from my country.</p>
<p>But, that aside, in all the close-up observations I&#8217;ve had of Pierre Poilievre, it appears he simply has no head for workable policy.  Yes, he can throw a punch, but he doesn&#8217;t have much to offer beyond that.  The politics of grievance CAN certainly get you elected, but there&#8217;s a whole lotta &#8220;what next?&#8221; where he&#8217;ll come up short.  If he was as new to the job as Trudeau was a decade back, I&#8217;d cut him some slack.  But he&#8217;s been around the Hill long enough that he ought to have learned a thing or two about what to pay attention to when developing policy.  But it seems he hasn&#8217;t.  His election posters and constituency office have always proclaimed that he was &#8220;:fighting for you&#8221;.  But I am constantly reminded of Brando in The Wild One, where one of the girls dancing with a member of his motorcycle gang asks Brando&#8217;s character &#8220;What are *you* rebelling against, Johnny?&#8221;, and he replies &#8220;Whaddya got?&#8221;.  Being a rootless critic without a tangible objective is no gift to the nation, or even to the party.</p>
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